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$400K Loan Scheme At York Tax Prep Company Ends With CEO's Guilty Plea: DOJ $400K Loan Scheme At York Tax Prep Company Ends With CEO's Guilty Plea: DOJ
$400K Loan Scheme At York Tax Prep Company Ends With CEO's Guilty Plea: DOJ A Pennsylvania tax prep CEO has pleaded guilty in a federal case involving fraudulent pandemic relief loans, the  FBI announced on Monday, Dec. 22.  Dommonick T. Chatman, 50, of York, pleaded guilty before U.S. District Judge Malachy E. Mannion to one count of bank fraud tied to false Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loan applications filed through his company, The Chatman Group LLC, according to U.S. Attorney Brian D. Miller on Thursday, Dec. 11, 2025. Chatman admitted that over several months in 2021, he either prepared or approved fraudulent PPP loan applications for nearly 20…
Ex-Eagles RB Wendell Smallwood Jr. Sentenced For COVID-19, Tax Fraud After Super Bowl Win Ex-Eagles RB Wendell Smallwood Jr. Sentenced For COVID-19, Tax Fraud After Super Bowl Win
Ex-Eagles RB Wendell Smallwood Jr. Sentenced For Covid-19, Tax Fraud After Super Bowl Win Wendell Smallwood Jr., a former Philadelphia Eagles running back and Super Bowl champion, was sentenced to 18 months in prison for wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, and conspiracy to defraud the IRS in Wilmington, Delaware, on Thursday, Sept. 18, according to federal court documents obtained by Daily Voice. U.S. District Senior Judge Richard G. Andrews also ordered Smallwood, 31, to repay the government $645,000. The punishment comes after Smallwood pleaded guilty in December 2024 to orchestrating schemes that defrauded COVID-19 relief programs and the IRS. Smallwood earned about…
Inwood Man Gets 4 Years For $1.7M COVID Loan Fraud, Lavish Spending Spree Inwood Man Gets 4 Years For $1.7M COVID Loan Fraud, Lavish Spending Spree
Inwood Man Gets 4 Years For $1.7M COVID Loan Fraud, Lavish Spending Spree A Long Island man will spend the next four years in federal prison for stealing more than $1.7 million in COVID-19 relief funds and using the money to fund a luxury lifestyle. Niall Alli, 52, of Inwood, was sentenced Wednesday, Aug. 13, in Central Islip federal court. He must also repay the full $1.7 million to the Small Business Administration (SBA) and forfeit about $135,000 in seized assets, including cryptocurrency. Alli pleaded guilty in December 2023. Between April 2020 and November 2021, he fraudulently obtained four Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans on behalf of two compani…
$5.6M Multi-State Fraud Scheme With 1K+ Stolen IDs Lands Pennsylvania Man Federal Charges: DOJ $5.6M Multi-State Fraud Scheme With 1K+ Stolen IDs Lands Pennsylvania Man Federal Charges: DOJ
$5.6M Multi-State Fraud Scheme With 1K+ Stolen IDs Lands Pennsylvania Man Federal Charges: DOJ A Pennsylvania man is accused of stealing over $5.6 million in pandemic aid using more than 1,000 stolen or fake identities, federal prosecutors announced on Monday, June 16. Adepoju Babatunde Salako, 32, has been indicted in Colorado on multiple federal charges after allegedly orchestrating a nationwide COVID-19 benefits scam, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Colorado. Salako faces six counts of wire fraud, one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, one count of conspiracy to commit money laundering, and four counts of aggravated identity theft, according to t…
Pennsylvania Man Helped Funnel $1.5M In Pandemic Fraud To Overseas Criminals: DOJ Pennsylvania Man Helped Funnel $1.5M In Pandemic Fraud To Overseas Criminals: DOJ
Pennsylvania Man Helped Funnel $1.5M In Pandemic Fraud To Overseas Criminals: DOJ A Pennsylvania man who acted as a "money mule" in a massive pandemic fraud scheme that funneled more than $1.5 million in stolen relief funds to overseas criminals will spend more than three years behind bars, federal officials announced. James G. Miller Jr., 53, of Scranton, was sentenced to 41 months in prison for his role in the wire fraud operation, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Middle District of Pennsylvania said in a release on Monday, March 3. Investigators say Miller helped move stolen pandemic aid—including Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA), Lost Wage Assistance Paymen…
Nation’s Largest COVID-19 Tax Credit Scheme Uncovered In Central Islip: USDOJ Nation’s Largest COVID-19 Tax Credit Scheme Uncovered In Central Islip: USDOJ
Nation’s Largest Covid-19 Tax Credit Scheme Uncovered In Central Islip: Usdoj Federal authorities announced on Wednesday, Jan. 22, 2025, that seven people have been charged in a $600 million COVID-19 tax credit fraud scheme, the largest of its kind in U.S. history, uncovered in Central Islip, New York. Keith Williams, Jamari Lewis, Morais Dicks, Janine Davis, Tiffany Williams, James Hames Jr., and Ewendra Mathurin, all current or former New York residents, are accused of filing over 8,000 fraudulent tax returns between November 2021 and June 2023. The defendants allegedly exploited the Employee Retention Credit (ERC) and paid sick and family leave credit (SFLC), feder…
$44M COVID Tax Scheme: Long Island Trio Among 7 NYers Nabbed In Largest US Case Ever $44M COVID Tax Scheme: Long Island Trio Among 7 NYers Nabbed In Largest US Case Ever
$44M COVID Tax Scheme: Long Island Trio Among 7 NYers Nabbed In Largest US Case Ever Seven New Yorkers have been charged in a sweeping tax fraud scheme, accused of exploiting pandemic relief programs to steal over $44 million, federal prosecutors announced. The indictment by the US Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York, unsealed Wednesday, Jan. 22, alleges that the defendants filed over 8,000 fraudulent tax returns, seeking more than $600 million in COVID-19 relief funds through the Employee Retention Credit (ERC) and related programs. Investigators determined the group successfully secured $44 million from the federal government. Defendants Long Island …
Former Congressional Candidate From Mount Vernon Gets Years In Prison For Fraud Former Congressional Candidate From Mount Vernon Gets Years In Prison For Fraud
Former Congressional Candidate From Mount Vernon Gets Years In Prison For Fraud A former congressional candidate from Westchester who once held several leadership positions in county and city government will spend several years in prison for stealing restaurant workers' wages and using them for himself.  Mount Vernon resident Derickson Lawrence, age 67, who unsuccessfully ran as a Democrat to represent New York's 16th Congressional District in 2018 and 2016, was sentenced to seven years and three months in prison for defrauding his payroll company's client and a COVID-19 relief program, according to court documents.  Lawrence had been the chief…
Owner of Ambler Italian Restaurant Gets Prison Time For Defrauding COVID Programs: Authorities Owner of Ambler Italian Restaurant Gets Prison Time For Defrauding COVID Programs: Authorities
Owner of Ambler Italian Restaurant Gets Prison Time For Defrauding COVID Programs: Authorities The owner of a Montgomery County Italian restaurant is getting prison time for defrauding several federal COVID-19 relief programs, authorities said. Giuseppina “Josephine” Leone, 62, of North Wales, was sentenced to 21 months in prison and one year of supervised release on Tuesday, Oct. 22, the US Department of Justice said in a news release. She must also pay a $50,000 fine and a $300 special assessment for pandemic program fraud, the news release states. Leone has also paid full restitution in the amount of $972,861. Her request for a sentence involving an alternative to jail time was de…
Shore Memorial Health System To Pay $3.15M For Improperly Taking Pandemic Loan: Feds Shore Memorial Health System To Pay $3.15M For Improperly Taking Pandemic Loan: Feds
Shore Memorial Health System To Pay $3.15M For Improperly Taking Pandemic Loan: Feds An Atlantic County healthcare system will pay more than $3 million for improperly receiving a loan from a COVID-19 pandemic program, authorities said. Shore Memorial Health System has agreed to pay the federal government $3.15 million, New Jersey's U.S. Attorney Philip Sellinger said in a news release on Wednesday, Aug. 14. The settlement comes from Shore Memorial Physicians’ Group receiving $2.78 million in a Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loan. The physicians' group wasn't eligible for a PPP loan because it isn't a small business since it's an affiliate of Shore Mem…
NYPD Detective From Long Island Helps Dozens Get Fraudulent COVID-19 Relief Loans, Feds Say NYPD Detective From Long Island Helps Dozens Get Fraudulent COVID-19 Relief Loans, Feds Say
Nypd Detective From Long Island Helps Dozens Get Fraudulent Covid-19 Relief Loans, Feds Say An NYPD detective from Long Island is among four defendants accused of helping dozens of people obtain fraudulent COVID-19 relief loans. John Bolden, age 46, of Valley Stream, was indicted on wire fraud charges in Brooklyn federal court on Monday, Aug. 12. Prosecutors said Bolden and a second NYPD detective, Anthony Carreira, owned partnership interests in a franchise location for a tax preparation business. Together with clients and co-defendants, the pair helped more than 65 people submit fraudulent applications for loans under the US Small Business Administration's Paycheck Protection P…
Sussex County Man Raked In Millions In Bogus PPP Loans, Feds Say Sussex County Man Raked In Millions In Bogus PPP Loans, Feds Say
Sussex County Man Raked In Millions In Bogus PPP Loans, Feds Say A 44-year-old Sparta man was indicted on fraudulently obtaining millions of dollars in Paycheck Protection Program funds during the COVID-19 pandemic, authorities said. From April 2020 through November 2022, Nikenson Jean Mathurin participated in a scheme to defraud the Small Business Administration to obtain COVD-19 emergency relief money by submitting several fraudulent PPP applications on behalf of fake businesses, U.S. Attorney Philip Sellinger said. Mathurin’s fraudulent applications included false information concerning monthly payroll, gross revenue, and number of employees, and fake…
$3.2 Million COVID-19 Loan Scheme: Long Island Woman Indicted On Fraud Charges $3.2 Million COVID-19 Loan Scheme: Long Island Woman Indicted On Fraud Charges
$3.2 Million Covid-19 Loan Scheme: Long Island Woman Indicted On Fraud Charges A Long Island woman faces up to 20 years behind bars after she was charged with multiple counts of fraud for submitting fake COVID relief loan applications. Donna Ingram, age 50, faced her indictment on Thursday, May 23, the United States Attorney’s Office (USAO) Eastern District of New York announced. The Freeport woman is alleged to have submitted dozens of fake applications for COVID-19 relief loans between May 2020 and May 2021.  Ingram submitted at least 27 Paycheck Protection Program, or PPP, loans for her own companies and at least 22 other businesses, the USAO claimed. …
Former Congressional Candidate From Mount Vernon Nabbed On Fraud Charges, Feds Say Former Congressional Candidate From Mount Vernon Nabbed On Fraud Charges, Feds Say
Former Congressional Candidate From Mount Vernon Nabbed On Fraud Charges, Feds Say A former congressional candidate from Westchester who held several leadership positions in county and city government has been convicted of federal fraud charges, officials announced.  Mount Vernon resident Derickson Lawrence, age 67, was convicted of fraud charges after defrauding his payroll company's client and a COVID-19 relief program, the US Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Virginia announced on Friday, March 22.  According to federal officials, Lawrence, who unsuccessfully ran as a Democrat to represent New York's 16th Congressional District in 2…
COVID-19: Ex-Court Officer From Valley Stream Sentenced For $770K Loan Fraud Scheme COVID-19: Ex-Court Officer From Valley Stream Sentenced For $770K Loan Fraud Scheme
Covid-19: Ex-Court Officer From Valley Stream Sentenced For $770K Loan Fraud Scheme Two former government employees from Long Island will spend more than a year in federal lockup for defrauding loan programs meant to help businesses impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic. Arthur Cornwall, age 43, of Babylon, and Sean Williams, age 42, of Valley Stream, were each sentenced to 18 months in prison in Central Islip federal court on Wednesday, March 20, after pleading guilty to wire fraud. Prosecutors said Cornwall, a former signal maintainer with the New York City Transit Authority, and Williams, a former New York State Court officer, received nearly $770,000 in small business loan…
Virginia Army Reservist Used COVID Scam To Pay Swindlers Overseas: Feds Virginia Army Reservist Used COVID Scam To Pay Swindlers Overseas: Feds
Virginia Army Reservist Used COVID Scam To Pay Swindlers Overseas: Feds A Virginia Army reservist was apparently no better than the people he thought he was fooling. Russell Laraway, 56, of Leesburg, admitted he fraudulently claimed more than $400,000 in a COVID relief fund scheme, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia Jessica D. Aber said. Being busted by the feds ultimately may have saved Laraway, though, who allegedly gave some of his hard-earned cash to foreign entities "in scams of which he was a victim," Aber's office said. According to court documents, Laraway incorporated two business entities that he purported to operate out of …
Founder Of LGBTQ+ Non-Profit In DC Charged For Fraud After 'Unexpected Return' To US: Feds Founder Of LGBTQ+ Non-Profit In DC Charged For Fraud After 'Unexpected Return' To US: Feds
Founder Of LGBTQ+ Non-Profit In DC Charged For Fraud After 'Unexpected Return' To US: Feds The trailblazing founder of Casa Ruby, a DC-based non-profit that provided services to the LGBTQ+ community is facing charges for alleged fraud and money laundering, according to prosecutors. Ruby Corado, 53, made her initial court appearance in DC on Wednesday to face charges for allegedly defrauding Paycheck Protection and the Economic Injury Disaster Loan programs, and money laundering after fleeing the country, authorities announced. Specifically, Corado is accused of diverting at least $150,000 of $1.3 million in taxpayer-backed emergency relief funds, intended for the organi…
Former Social Media Influencer In MD Gets Prison Time For $1.2M COVID Scheme Former Social Media Influencer In MD Gets Prison Time For $1.2M COVID Scheme
Former Social Media Influencer In MD Gets Prison Time For $1.2M COVID Scheme A former social media influencer from Maryland is heading to federal prison for his role in a $1.2 million COVID scheme involving wire fraud and money laundering. Denish Sahadevan, aka “Danny Devan,” 32, of Potomac, Maryland, was sentenced on Tuesday, Jan. 9 to three years in federal prison, followed by three years of supervised release, for wire fraud, aggravated identity theft and money laundering, authorities said. ‘Danny Devan’ gained a TikTok following for his financial advice regarding stocks and cryptocurrency: @.dannydevvan ♬ original sound - Stocks • Crypto • Money The …
COVID-19: Restaurateur From Capital Region Admits To $163K Pandemic Relief Fraud COVID-19: Restaurateur From Capital Region Admits To $163K Pandemic Relief Fraud
Covid-19: Restaurateur From Capital Region Admits To $163K Pandemic Relief Fraud A former restaurant owner in the region raked in six figures by defrauding a relief program meant to help businesses impacted by COVID-19. Scott Solomon, age 37, of Albany, pleaded guilty to two counts of bank fraud in Albany federal court on Monday, Dec. 11. According to prosecutors, he admitted to applying for and obtaining Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans in 2020 for two Saratoga Springs restaurants that he formerly operated. PPP loans were issued by financial institutions in 2020 and 2021 and guaranteed by the US Small Business Administration. Funds were meant to help businesses…
$2M NJ Scammer Who Claimed Dead People As Biz Partners Gets 3 Years, No Parole $2M NJ Scammer Who Claimed Dead People As Biz Partners Gets 3 Years, No Parole
$2M NJ Scammer Who Claimed Dead People As Biz Partners Gets 3 Years, No Parole UPDATE: A scammer from Sussex County who fraudulently collected more than $2 million in federal funds by identifying people who'd been dead for more than a decade as business partners must spend the next three years in federal prison. John Jhong, 54, of Sparta, actually submitted bogus applications for more than $15 million in federal pandemic aid earmarked to help struggling companies during COVID-19, U.S. Attorney Philip R. Sellinger said. Jhong "turned these vital relief programs into his personal ATM," spending the more than $2 million he illegally collected on personal expenses, the U.…
COVID-19 $558K Scam: Former Nightclub Owners In Capital Region Admit Defrauding Relief Programs COVID-19 $558K Scam: Former Nightclub Owners In Capital Region Admit Defrauding Relief Programs
Covid-19 $558K Scam: Former Nightclub Owners In Capital Region Admit Defrauding Relief Programs A husband and wife duo from the region accused of raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars by defrauding COVID-19 relief programs through their former nightclub business has pleaded guilty. Saratoga County residents Deborah Budhraj, age 52, and Adesh Budhraj, age 53, both of Ballston Lake, pleaded guilty to bank fraud and wire fraud charges in federal court in Albany on Wednesday, July 19. The couple formerly owned the Tropics Restaurant & Bar, located in Schenectady on South Brandywine Avenue. According to prosecutors, they agreed to sell the business to another couple in February 2…
$9.5 Million Fraud: Long Island Man Admits Using Fake Companies In Scheme $9.5 Million Fraud: Long Island Man Admits Using Fake Companies In Scheme
$9.5 Million Fraud: Long Island Man Admits Using Fake Companies In Scheme A Long Island man who is accused of using fake businesses to defraud over $9 million from federal disaster relief funds has pleaded guilty, authorities announced. On Friday, July 14, the Eastern District of New York (EDNY) of the US Attorney’s Office announced Rami Saab’s guilty plea to charges of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. Saab, a 44-year-old from Glen Cove, was accused of stealing $9.5 million from banks and the Small Business Association (SBA) over the course of one year by creating fake companies so that he could claim COVID-19 relief loans. According to the charges, between M…
Long Island Tax Preparer Got $13M In Fraudulently Obtained Business Loans, Feds Say Long Island Tax Preparer Got $13M In Fraudulently Obtained Business Loans, Feds Say
Long Island Tax Preparer Got $13M In Fraudulently Obtained Business Loans, Feds Say A business owner on Long Island is facing federal charges after allegedly conning his way into millions of dollars in government-backed loans. Sandeep Grover, age 54, of Massapequa, is charged with major fraud against the US and conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, according to an indictment that was unsealed by the US Attorney’s Office in the Southern District on Wednesday, May 24. Grover is the owner of Excellent Business Services Inc., a tax preparation business based in Seaford. Prosecutors allege that between April 2020 and June 2021, he submitted over 100 applications for …
Multitude Of Government Agencies Victimized Out Of $4M By NJ Man: Feds Multitude Of Government Agencies Victimized Out Of $4M By NJ Man: Feds
Multitude Of Government Agencies Victimized Out Of $4M By NJ Man: Feds A New Jersey man stole more than $4 million through a clutch of schemes that included defrauding three different government programs, authorities charged. Gbenga Akinbode, 33, of Newark, opened a bank account and then used 120 different debit cards to buy $500,000 worth of money orders that were deposited into the account, according to a complaint filed by Homeland Security Investigations in U.S. District Court in Newark. Investigators discovered that the debit cards were funded with $4 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment insurance benefits, bogus Paycheck Protection Program loans…
COVID-19 Fraud: Nurse Midwives From Capital Region Doled Out Phony Vaccination Cards, Feds Say COVID-19 Fraud: Nurse Midwives From Capital Region Doled Out Phony Vaccination Cards, Feds Say
Covid-19 Fraud: Nurse Midwives From Capital Region Doled Out Phony Vaccination Cards, Feds Say A pair of nurse midwives from New York is facing federal charges following a nationwide investigation into COVID-19 related fraud. Kelly McDermott, of Albany, and Kathleen Breault, of Cambridge in Washington County, were among five individuals to be charged for their alleged roles in separate schemes that fraudulently distributed more than 2,600 fake COVID-19 vaccination record cards, according to the US Attorney’s Office in the Eastern District. The investigation also uncovered more than $1.7 million in fraud involving the Paycheck Protection Program and the Economic Injury Disaster Loan …
Man Used Stolen ID To Live Rent-Free In Lynn Apartment For Nearly Year: Feds Man Used Stolen ID To Live Rent-Free In Lynn Apartment For Nearly Year: Feds
Man Used Stolen ID To Live Rent-Free In Lynn Apartment For Nearly Year: Feds A 36-year-old Lynn man is accused of stealing a person's identity to rent an apartment and then never paying rent, federal authorities said.  Steeve Jean faces charges of wire fraud, aggravated identity theft, and unauthorized use of a Social Security number, the US Attorney for Massachusetts said. He potentially faces decades in prison if convicted.  The prosecutor said that Jean rented an apartment in September 2021 under someone else's name and lived there until June 2022 without paying any recent. He left when the owners started eviction proceedings against him.  He…
IRS Bags Hundreds Of Tax Cheats, Money Launderers As COVID Relief Fraud Tops $3.2 Billion IRS Bags Hundreds Of Tax Cheats, Money Launderers As COVID Relief Fraud Tops $3.2 Billion
IRS Bags Hundreds Of Tax Cheats, Money Launderers As COVID Relief Fraud Tops $3.2 Billion It wasn't long after the government began offering COVID relief loans three years ago that IRS investigators were hot on the tails of scammers. Since then, agents with IRS Criminal Investigation have pursued 975 tax and money-laundering cases nationwide involving $3.2 billion worth of fraudulently obtained loans, credits and payments meant to help American workers, families, and small businesses who were rocked by the pandemic. Over that time, IRS-CI has kept its conviction rate at nearly 100%, federal authorities say. It has produced indictments against 458 defendants, …
COVID-19: NY Woman Sentenced For $1.69M Relief Fraud COVID-19: NY Woman Sentenced For $1.69M Relief Fraud
Covid-19: NY Woman Sentenced For $1.69M Relief Fraud A New York woman will spend time in federal prison after admitting that she took advantage of loan programs meant to help businesses struggling due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Debra Hackstadt, age 68, of Albany, was sentenced to 16 months behind bars Tuesday, Nov. 8, in federal court in Albany after pleading guilty to wire fraud in May 2022. Earlier Report: COVID-19: Albany Woman Pleads Guilty To Pandemic Relief Fraud According to the US Attorney’s Office in the Northern District, Hackstadt admitted to fraudulently obtaining 32 government-backed loans worth more than $1.6 million betwee…
Marblehead 'Monk,' Lawyer Scammed $3.6M In COVID Relief Money To Buy Luxury Items: Feds Marblehead 'Monk,' Lawyer Scammed $3.6M In COVID Relief Money To Buy Luxury Items: Feds
Marblehead 'Monk,' Lawyer Scammed $3.6M In COVID Relief Money To Buy Luxury Items: Feds A monk and an attorney apply for COVID-19 relief loans. It sounds like the start of a joke, but the FBI isn't laughing.  Agents arrested a Marblehead man who claimed to be an Orthodox Christian monk and a woman who served as his attorney this week and charged them with a "brazen" scheme to steal more than $3.6 million from federal programs.  Brian Andrew Bushell, 47, and Tracey M.A. Stockton, 64, were arrested on Thursday, Oct. 13, after the FBI said it uncovered their efforts to swindle aid money meant for businesses struggling during the pandemic. They used that cash t…
DC Man Sentenced For Scheming To Steal $31M In COVID-19 Funds DC Man Sentenced For Scheming To Steal $31M In COVID-19 Funds
DC Man Sentenced For Scheming To Steal $31M In Covid-19 Funds A 31-year-old D.C. man was sentenced to 10 years in prison for trying to steal $31 million from the government’s COVID relief programs, officials said.  Elias Eldabbagh used his company, Alias Systems, LLC, to apply for 25 phony Paycheck Protection Program loans between July 2020 and May 2021, the U.S. Attorney's Office reported. Eldabbagh used an alias to hide his identity and steal over two million dollars, which he spread across 13 separate bank and brokerage accounts, authorities said.  He also stole from the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act, which…
Former Revere Man Stole $2.5 Million In Covid-19 Relief Money: Feds Former Revere Man Stole $2.5 Million In Covid-19 Relief Money: Feds
Former Revere Man Stole $2.5 Million In Covid-19 Relief Money: Feds A 34-year-old former Revere man stole $2.5 million in federal Covid-19 relief funds, the U.S. Attorney's Office said on Tuesday, Aug. 23.  Vinicius Santana, 34, of Boca Raton, Florida, was charged with wire fraud and unlawful money transactions, the federal prosecutor's office said.  Officials said Santana owned the Massachusetts-based painting company Complete Home Care, LLC and applied for Paycheck Protection Program loans four times. Federal pursers denied the first three applications where he claimed to have five employees and between $10,000 and $18,000 in month payroll …